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Post by sg3526 on Nov 22, 2013 11:13:13 GMT -5
cordova went I ihra,wish we had more in the Midwest,ihra is more racer friendly than nhra One of the biggest reasons you don't see the Folk family at more NHRA events. Brian Folk owned Gateway in Super Gas and refuses to participate until they start treating the Sportsman racer better. He still attends a few races in NHRA but nothing like he used to. The poor treatment is the main reason a lot of racers have bailed out of NHRA sportsman series racing.
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Post by hemiman4262003 on Nov 23, 2013 12:57:28 GMT -5
im going to try to race in super rod at the summer nationals ihra in cordova next year
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Post by sg3526 on Nov 23, 2013 23:45:29 GMT -5
im going to try to race in super rod at the summer nationals ihra in cordova next year Well you will have three chances to run Super Gas at Gateway next season. Just saw a schedule update from NHRA and as I predicted the NHRA divisional at Cordova is being relocated to a different track without the Alcohol Cars.
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Post by hemiman4262003 on Nov 24, 2013 6:56:35 GMT -5
I seen they was relocating the div one that was going to be at cordova,and I seen about gateway races
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Post by megamerc on Nov 28, 2013 9:38:37 GMT -5
We would like to wish everyone a safe and happy Thanksgiving and bless everyone on their travels to families and freinds on their way home. And yes we are still making progress on the track stuff and also got some more goodys for the track to pick-up this weekend from up north. We will be having a meeting on the progress on the track soon.
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Post by mouthracer on Dec 2, 2013 7:24:21 GMT -5
We would like to wish everyone a safe and happy Thanksgiving and bless everyone on their travels to families and freinds on their way home. And yes we are still making progress on the track stuff and also got some more goodys for the track to pick-up this weekend from up north. We will be having a meeting on the progress on the track soon. Great news thanks for the update Can't wait till spring .
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Post by midniteta on Dec 2, 2013 10:20:37 GMT -5
Keep it coming guys. We are almost up to 100 pages of B.S.
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Post by dwc48 on Dec 2, 2013 11:49:05 GMT -5
Seems like you would actually have ground secured for a track and financing in place before going out buying stuff for a track that doesn't actually exist, not meant to knock anyone but the only thing I have seen is a sign in a bean field and from what I understand that leased ground is history and their looking for a different location and still have no financing in place to build a track or to buy property to build it on.
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Post by hemiman4262003 on Dec 2, 2013 12:23:08 GMT -5
Ronnie says a track meeting is soon,so we will see
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Post by dwc48 on Dec 6, 2013 18:09:06 GMT -5
Ronnie also said there was progress being made and there would have a meeting on Sept. 8th which was put off because of the car show Sept 26th. Actually I know for a fact that in Sept. no progress was being made and at the time he posted the new meeting it is the same old thing we are trying to get a investor with big pockets because banks want lots of money up front and we don't have it but we are working on it. TICK,TICK,TICK goes the clock!
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Post by redlite on Dec 8, 2013 20:34:04 GMT -5
Ronnies dream is our dream,a safe place to race,close to home!!! Montgomery Co. could use the tax revenue,we all need a place to spend our racing Dollar$$ The bankers need to lend the money and take the chance! No risk,no reward!!Go Ronnie!!
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Post by midniteta on Dec 11, 2013 8:41:31 GMT -5
The bankers need to lend the money and take the chance! No risk,no reward!!Go Ronnie!! Really? Just someone just say this? Why would a bank or any kind of lending institute put money toward this. Ronnie has no collateral. From what Ive heard Hemseth is out. Ronnie now needs to find new land. So a project that once was going to cost est 1 million is now going to be at least let me say that again at least another 500,000 for land. So now we are up to a cool 1.5 million. I dont think anyone disagrees with "the county could use the tax revenue". It takes deep pockets for someone to put up a project like this. Something that I dont think anyone on here has. Or the track would of been built. Just my $.02 For anyone to put this kind of money out A- You are going to have to hire a track promoter/manager that has some credentials. Proof that they can make a track make money. Nobody is going to invest in a Million dollar pipe dream. Someone that has proven themselves out in the real world with making a track work. From what I have heard Ronnie will not give up the control. Nobody in there right mind would invest any other way. B. I think we can all agree that from the first P&Z meeting this thing has been a cluster you know what. C. The banks look at it that there is a track just 60 miles away that is doing all this cool stuff. There is no way another track could make it that close. Im not to for sure they could make it together. IF MAR was open and had good track prep and was run right Id say most of us would race there. For the ones that have raced gateway we all know these last 2 years have been somewhat of a short fall in the track prep department. Cant get the car to run the number. Then when you do the next run the track has gone away. Maybe if the track was a little farther west would help> I dont know. It all boils down to smoke and mirrors from the very beginning of the venture. Does anyone else find it funny that Ronnie is buying all this track equipment and doesnt have a place to put the track? I know a penny saved is a penny earned. But we are not talking about a $10,0000 project here. Its a million plus. A couple thousand dollars saved is not going to make or break this project.
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Post by hemiman4262003 on Dec 11, 2013 9:53:11 GMT -5
maybe Ronnie can look into that Keokuk track the fell through
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Post by sg3526 on Dec 11, 2013 11:30:04 GMT -5
maybe Ronnie can look into that Keokuk track the fell through That track is an 1/8 th mile facility and Ronnie has always said that he wanted to do 1/4 mile or do nothing. From the discussions that I heard on their FB page (Keokuk's) is that they were going to primarily do a street style format, no true race cars because of the length of the track. Keokuk closed many years ago much like Pevely, Pacific, Ste. Gen and MAR. The cars had simply gotten to be to fast for the tracks that were built for cars running mid 8's in the 1/8th mile at 100 MPH. A lot of these tracks are land locked and can't do anything about it or the cost to rebuild exceeds the potential profit. Coles County is a classic example, I could take my Roadster over there and not have any issue at all but if I tried to run the Dragster then I was in trouble, way too rough and not nearly enough shut down area. MAR eventually had to put the faster cars on an 1/8th mile format because they were going to fast over "THRILL HILL". I really hoped that this would happen but as Midniteta points out the banks aren't real friendly to what we do and with Gateway sitting just across the river and the quantity of race cars not being what they used to I just don't see this happening. Basically from what I hear there is nothing going on as far as new investors or banks looking to jump into this deal, so now Ronnie is going to try to turn to the racers and see if they will buy stock in his dream. Again, nothing against Ronnie but I have a 401k that I hate but have to have but I still have some control over it. To invest or buy stocks in a project and not have any say into what happens and how things are done isn't my idea of how it should be done. If you buy stock in something you should 1) have a vote in the decisions of the operation 2) be paid some type of dividend or profit sharing. I just don't see this happening at all.
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Post by dwc48 on Dec 11, 2013 15:51:08 GMT -5
Keokuk would just be the same thing, I think it could could be made a 1/4 mile track but the reason it never happened was a lack of funds,I followed their facebook pages and no bank would touch it without $300,000 up front, they tried the same thing Ronnie is trying crowd sharing,racer sharing (why would racers pay for a track they have to pay to race on), t shirts and selling stock and found out no one is going to build a track for someone else. I just don't get why a big money investor would stake all the money in a project where the rest are putting up nothing but still getting 1/2 or 2/3 of the track, if they have big money and want a track why cut in other people that have no money,no property or anything else to offer. It is true the lease property is gone and they are looking to buy property with someone else's money, good luck with that. I suggest if Ronnie has no more to offer at this meeting if there is one then the same old we still have hope they just pull the plug.
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