gdog
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Post by gdog on Nov 19, 2011 17:20:07 GMT -5
This maybe a much to do about nothing as anything. In some cases this may be the best thing to happen, If this passes thru, which it should, then the track has been tested to the full extent . As any landowners, we all do what we can to protect ours as much as possible , and I wouldn't expect anything less from others! calling them names or thinking of them in a less light is not going to help the cause, in fact it may incite something far worse, this after all is a public forum and yes even lawyers, etc ,may use this site as evidence against it or for it . Is it upsetting? yes, aggravating? yes , but it is the prossess that we all use in some form or other . Lets see the process thru, keep positive that this will all be put to rest in it's timely manner, we all win when that happens THANKS CAROLYN, FOR ALL YOU DOING Dennis do you ever proof read your posts? Or do you leave them this way for their comedic effect? |
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Post by sg3526 on Nov 19, 2011 18:44:50 GMT -5
This maybe a much to do about nothing as anything. In some cases this may be the best thing to happen, If this passes thru, which it should, then the track has been tested to the full extent . As any landowners, we all do what we can to protect ours as much as possible , and I wouldn't expect anything less from others! calling them names or thinking of them in a less light is not going to help the cause, in fact it may incite something far worse, this after all is a public forum and yes even lawyers, etc ,may use this site as evidence against it or for it . Is it upsetting? yes, aggravating? yes , but it is the prossess that we all use in some form or other . Lets see the process thru, keep positive that this will all be put to rest in it's timely manner, we all win when that happens THANKS CAROLYN, FOR ALL YOU DOING Dennis don't take this the wrong way and it is by no means a shot at you. But that by far has to to the most prolific and well spoken post that you have ever written. You're correct we shouldn't call other people names but they are only doing this in an effort to stall the inevitable, which is to build a track on a piece of property that has been properly re-zoned to fit the needs of the track. If they don't want the track, let's buy their parcels of land and end of problem. |
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Post by km69stang on Nov 19, 2011 19:05:08 GMT -5
THe whole reason for having planning and zoning is so that there is a discussion and approval process about what happens in the land next to yours. That being said, the track has done that and got the approval. Just because they dont like it now, does not give them the right to go to a different county and sue to have the decision overturned. That is the point of having elected officials, but of course since these people dont live there they dont get to vote out the officials that are elected by the people of the county. They LOST...if they dont like it SELL the land. I am sure there are a lot of people that would love to have it. I have no doubt the value of that land is going to go up now. I wish i had some money I would be all over it!!
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Post by dennismopar73 on Nov 19, 2011 20:15:37 GMT -5
thank you , sg3526
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Post by mouthracer on Nov 20, 2011 17:32:39 GMT -5
THe whole reason for having planning and zoning is so that there is a discussion and approval process about what happens in the land next to yours. That being said, the track has done that and got the approval. Just because they dont like it now, does not give them the right to go to a different county and sue to have the decision overturned. That is the point of having elected officials, but of course since these people dont live there they dont get to vote out the officials that are elected by the people of the county. They LOST...if they dont like it SELL the land. I am sure there are a lot of people that would love to have it. I have no doubt the value of that land is going to go up now. I wish i had some money I would be all over it!! Since this of public record please post the names of those in the lawsuit or litigation . And didn't they go to all those meetings if I remember it kept getting drawn out since Amerin power line issue . Their should be some issues with their own housekeeping or IRS ,property taxs for dwellings livestock ,dumping ,well digging junk cars etc etc .Just a thought Eolioa part 2 |
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Post by malibumonte78 on Nov 20, 2011 19:01:04 GMT -5
THe whole reason for having planning and zoning is so that there is a discussion and approval process about what happens in the land next to yours. That being said, the track has done that and got the approval. Just because they dont like it now, does not give them the right to go to a different county and sue to have the decision overturned. That is the point of having elected officials, but of course since these people dont live there they dont get to vote out the officials that are elected by the people of the county. They LOST...if they dont like it SELL the land. I am sure there are a lot of people that would love to have it. I have no doubt the value of that land is going to go up now. I wish i had some money I would be all over it!! Since this of public record please post the names of those in the lawsuit or litigation . And didn't they go to all those meetings if I remember it kept getting drawn out since Amerin power line issue . Their should be some issues with their own housekeeping or IRS ,property taxs for dwellings livestock ,dumping ,well digging junk cars etc etc .Just a thought Eolioa part 2 Names are posted in the montgomery and me article linked in the first post of this thread. The track is much farther along than it was during the eolia incident. |
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Post by Shawn (Richter Racing) on Nov 20, 2011 22:19:22 GMT -5
I am blown away that they can even do this. Hopefully the judge will throw it out.
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Post by km69stang on Nov 20, 2011 23:24:27 GMT -5
I talked to Ronnie a little more about this today and he said that from what he has learned now that it is actually quite common for people that are not happy about the decisions like this to sue but that they are also frequently thrown out of court immediately, but we will have to be patient and see. Regardless, I think it is a bunch of crap!
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Post by megamerc on Nov 21, 2011 21:06:14 GMT -5
stop by and seen county commissioners to talk about whats going on. cant go into details but everthing looks good for mid america raceway park !!!! Ronnie
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Post by falfa on Nov 21, 2011 22:25:44 GMT -5
glad to hear it.
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Post by eightbarrel on Nov 21, 2011 23:37:30 GMT -5
all we can do is wait, that really sucks. everybody have a good thanksgiving!!
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Post by MontgomeryWriter on Nov 27, 2011 18:15:54 GMT -5
Someone sent us an interesting Letter to the Editor - go check it out at montgomeryandme.com/?q=content/letter-editor-owensville-man-frustrated-priorities-city-people-who-are-suing-block-new-floreI went to the Assessor's and Collector's office and verified that all of the Plaintiffs' property is still zoned agricultural, which is interesting when their lawsuit is fussing about how it affects them being there - not crops or livestock or anything like that. All of the tax bills go someplace out of county. None of them have any type of structure bigger than 100 square feet on record, which is the size at which you must obtain a building permit and pay taxes on the structure. As of Sun., Nov 27, there has been nothing new posted on CaseNet. However, the Circuit Clerk sent the certified mail receipt to the Plaintiffs' lawyer on 11/17 - allow 2-3 days for him to get it, that's 11/20 - then there was only a few days before Thanksgiving. He might not have gotten to it yet, or he might have mailed in a request for a hearing which the Court hasn't gotten yet. I'll keep checking, and I will be there when the hearing occurs. Someone somewhere mentioned outhouses being illegal - I looked into that - Outhouses are subject to state statute and are referred to as a “privy.” The attached link will get you a publication. The portion that is relevant is on page 37 of that PDF, and I pasted the language below. Lastly, I have gotten a lot of messages through Facebook, email, and PM here, and even in person thanking me for all the coverage - I'm happy to do it, I enjoy it - thank YOU for reading, and keep checking my site to keep my ratings numbers up! ; ) Carolyn Gerding Editor of www.MontgomeryAndMe.com, a CountyNewsLive.com website health.mo.gov/living/environment/onsite/pdf/onsite_ref_book.pdf (J) Privy. A privy will be allowed only under limited conditions and will not be recognized as a method of sewage disposal for a continuously occupied dwelling, business or other structure. A privy will only be considered for remote areas not served by a piped water source. Examples of these areas may be a rural cemetery, a rural church with a small congregation and where hand-washing facilities are available, or a river access point provided by the Department of Conservation. Plans and construction of a privy will need to meet the approval of the administrative authority. 1. The privy shall be used to receive only human excreta and toilet paper. The privy shall not be used as a depository for other wastes. 2. A pit shall be provided for the privy. The sides of the pit shall be curbed to prevent cave-in. If the pit has an earth bottom, the bottom shall be at least three feet (3’) above saturated soil conditions. If this separation distance cannot be achieved in the location of the privy, then the pit shall be liquid tight. 3. The pit shall be periodically pumped out by someone who services septic tank systems. At no time shall the pit contents be allowed to accumulate to within one foot (1’) of the pit top. The pit contents shall then be transported and disposed into a community sewer system that is in compliance with Chapter 644, RSMo. 4. Both the pit and the privy shall be vented. Insectproof openings shall be placed in the walls, below the seat. A vent shall extend from the underside of the seat board through the roof or up to a horizontal vent open to the sides of the toilet. This vent must be flush with the underside of the seat board and shall not extend down into the pit. All vent openings to the outside shall be properly screened to keep out insects. The top of the privy shall have a screened opening on each side. It is preferable the opening be all the way around the top of the privy in order to allow air to pass through and to carry away any odors which may seep into the upper part of the structure. If a crescent-shaped opening is cut into the door or wall of the privy, it shall also be screened. 5. The inside of the privy shall be of durable, smooth, non-absorbent material. If wood is used, the inside of the structure shall be coated with a polyurethane-type coating so as to minimize the penetration of liquids and odors into the wood. 6. A tight-fitting door, preferably with a self-closing feature, such as a door spring, shall be used. 7. A privy shall be set back from surface waters, buildings, property lines and water supply wells the same distance as required for soil treatment areas. This information may be found in subsection (1)(D), Table 1 of this rule. 8. The privy shall be of sufficient capacity for the facility it serves, but shall have at least fifty cubic feet (50 cu. ft.) of capacity. 9. Abandoned pits shall have the contents removed, transported and disposed into a community sewer system that is in compliance with Chapter 644, RSMo. This activity shall be performed by someone who services septic tank systems. The pit shall then be filled with clean earth and slightly mounded to allow for settling. |
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Post by eightbarrel on Nov 27, 2011 21:44:20 GMT -5
keep up the good work Carolyn
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Post by 9seccobra on Dec 2, 2011 12:22:18 GMT -5
Appears court date is set for Dec 16...
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Post by 60sdoll on Dec 2, 2011 19:53:20 GMT -5
It would be good for as many MAR supporters to be present at hearing as possible. The 16th is a Friday. The hearing is scheduled in the Montgomery Circuit court and listed as third on the docket.
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