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Post by G724 PRO on Dec 12, 2011 22:45:22 GMT -5
I have a set of Mickey Thompson slicks that are leaking threw the side wall. I have heard that if you take some Dawn dish washing liquid and coat in inside of the tire they will not leak. If this is true how many coats should I apply and does it need to be Dawn.
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Post by sg3526 on Dec 13, 2011 2:13:06 GMT -5
I used Palmolive and Dawn. One generous coat usually does the trick. Mine were leaking so bad they would be flat in about an hour. Coated them and no more issues.
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Post by G724 PRO on Dec 13, 2011 7:53:49 GMT -5
Should I let it dry before I have the tires mounted?
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Post by sg3526 on Dec 13, 2011 8:17:50 GMT -5
Not really dry so to speak. Dish soap never really does dry. It always stays flexible that's why it works so well inside slicks. It's thick enough to stop the air but flexible enough to not crack or split when the slick side walls flex.
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Post by bracketracing on Dec 13, 2011 8:20:46 GMT -5
In my humble opinion. They are tube type for a reason. I've mounted many for friends that don't run tubes. They coat them with dawn dish soap, with very little problems of leaking. I'm not checking tires every 5 minutes in staging lanes. Racing is supposed to be fun.
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Post by hemiman4262003 on Dec 13, 2011 9:34:02 GMT -5
i run tubes,so do you get better 60ft without tubes and et and mph
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Post by oneomega on Dec 13, 2011 10:54:24 GMT -5
Have run Hoosiers for years w/o tubes and never had a problem with leaks. I put extra air in them between races and over the winter (10-12 lbs.) for storage purposes, but they stay that way until race day. The slicks on my car read 12 lbs. today and have been that way since the end of October. I run them @ 7.5 lbs and only have to add air as the air cools in the evening. I like adding air as the evening wears on...means I'm going rounds! Steve
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Post by Tray on Dec 13, 2011 11:11:22 GMT -5
Run drag radials they don't leak! Haha Jk. Interesting info on the dish soap.....learn something new everyday!
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Post by slingshot383 on Dec 14, 2011 5:24:11 GMT -5
Tubes add weight to the rotating mass, they don't react quite as quick as a tubeless, but will increase tire growth at the big end. Now another choice for high, and I do mean high horsepower cars are slick liners (as the fuel cars use), they really increase the safety aspect, but also are heavier than tubes.
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Post by sg3526 on Dec 14, 2011 8:37:33 GMT -5
In my humble opinion. They are tube type for a reason. I've mounted many for friends that don't run tubes. They coat them with dawn dish soap, with very little problems of leaking. I'm not checking tires every 5 minutes in staging lanes. Racing is supposed to be fun. Kevin, I haven't run tubes in my tires since 1988 when I had one break in two and wad up inside my tire and damn near shake me and the car to death. I don't have any problem loosing air pressure in the lanes unless I'm setting in them so long that it goes from sunny to dark, then I may lose maybe a pound at most. Biggest problem I have is that they actually will increase in pressure when they sit in the sun, but you know how that goes. The set of Hoosiers that are on my dragster are the first pair that I really had to mess with as far as soaping the inside and it was only one of them. The tires that are on my Roadster may go down maybe 2 lbs. over the winter and start to look like they are low but I don't add any additional air to the at all when I store everything. I have more problems with the front runners on both cars leaking more so than the rears and they are supposed to be a tubeless tire. Maybe if I get an extra minute or two this off season I'll try soaping them to see what happens. BTW, I don't know if you sell any BG products at your shop but I put the BG transmission conditioner in my trannies and picked up .020 on a pro tree. Just sayin...
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Post by G724 PRO on Dec 14, 2011 9:44:17 GMT -5
Well I took my slicks up to a local shop last night and had them broke down. Clean the old bead sealer off of the rim and tire. Wiped a healthy amount of Polmalive to in wall of the tire and mounted them. Put 30 psi and you could see the soap pushing thru the wall. After about 5 minutes no more soap they are sealed. What a great idea.
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Post by sg3526 on Dec 14, 2011 12:40:07 GMT -5
Well I took my slicks up to a local shop last night and had them broke down. Clean the old bead sealer off of the rim and tire. Wiped a healthy amount of Polmalive to in wall of the tire and mounted them. Put 30 psi and you could see the soap pushing thru the wall. After about 5 minutes no more soap they are sealed. What a great idea. Another one of those backyard fixes that actually works...
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Post by bracketracing on Dec 14, 2011 14:49:35 GMT -5
In my humble opinion. They are tube type for a reason. I've mounted many for friends that don't run tubes. They coat them with dawn dish soap, with very little problems of leaking. I'm not checking tires every 5 minutes in staging lanes. Racing is supposed to be fun. Kevin, I haven't run tubes in my tires since 1988 when I had one break in two and wad up inside my tire and damn near shake me and the car to death. I don't have any problem loosing air pressure in the lanes unless I'm setting in them so long that it goes from sunny to dark, then I may lose maybe a pound at most. Biggest problem I have is that they actually will increase in pressure when they sit in the sun, but you know how that goes. The set of Hoosiers that are on my dragster are the first pair that I really had to mess with as far as soaping the inside and it was only one of them. The tires that are on my Roadster may go down maybe 2 lbs. over the winter and start to look like they are low but I don't add any additional air to the at all when I store everything. I have more problems with the front runners on both cars leaking more so than the rears and they are supposed to be a tubeless tire. Maybe if I get an extra minute or two this off season I'll try soaping them to see what happens. BTW, I don't know if you sell any BG products at your shop but I put the BG transmission conditioner in my trannies and picked up .020 on a pro tree. Just sayin... Mike do you use synthetic fluid? I'm using amsoil (Coan Recomended) and yes we have BG and I really need .020 on a pro tree. LOL Will tubless react quicker I'll try it. I have had tubes move and cause a vibration.
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Post by sg3526 on Dec 14, 2011 15:26:56 GMT -5
Kevin, I haven't run tubes in my tires since 1988 when I had one break in two and wad up inside my tire and damn near shake me and the car to death. I don't have any problem loosing air pressure in the lanes unless I'm setting in them so long that it goes from sunny to dark, then I may lose maybe a pound at most. Biggest problem I have is that they actually will increase in pressure when they sit in the sun, but you know how that goes. The set of Hoosiers that are on my dragster are the first pair that I really had to mess with as far as soaping the inside and it was only one of them. The tires that are on my Roadster may go down maybe 2 lbs. over the winter and start to look like they are low but I don't add any additional air to the at all when I store everything. I have more problems with the front runners on both cars leaking more so than the rears and they are supposed to be a tubeless tire. Maybe if I get an extra minute or two this off season I'll try soaping them to see what happens. BTW, I don't know if you sell any BG products at your shop but I put the BG transmission conditioner in my trannies and picked up .020 on a pro tree. Just sayin... Mike do you use synthetic fluid? I'm using amsoil (Coan Recomended) and yes we have BG and I really need .020 on a pro tree. LOL Will tubless react quicker I'll try it. I have had tubes move and cause a vibration. I've done quite a bit to my car to make it hit the pro tree. Biggest thing I did was change the rear springs in the car tighten up the rear shocks and go to a Hipster Aluminum Brake. I've used synthetic oil as well as regular very little difference in the way it reacts, .004 or less. When Tim was the BG rep he talked me into trying his stuff in my transmission and to my surprise it worked really well. I change my fliud more if I do a lot of pro tree stuff just because it's so much harder on the fluid. And everytime I change the fluid I add a can of the additive to my fluid. I usually have between .010 and .015 in the box when I run a pro tree, and between 1.110 to 1.120 for full tree racing, but there are tracks and places that you go and the roll out is a little suspect. But if I'm there on the tree and do what I'm supposed to (which as I get older is harder to do) I'm usually .00 on the tree. Try taking your tubes out and see what it does. Made my lights a lot more consistant and picked the 60' up and the cars handle a lot better down track. Like I said I don't have any issue with losing air pressure in either car and since 1988 this is the first tire I had to soap.
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Post by bracketracing on Dec 14, 2011 15:47:57 GMT -5
I'm putting new on this year. I'll try it. I know they are alot easier to mount that way. Maybe the balance will hold longer. See even old dogs can change their minds once in awhile. But I am a little hard headed. Okay alot
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